Notes, Guemes Island
Ferry Committee
Roundtable
Meeting September 28, 2007
Guemes Island Ferry
Committee / Skagit County Public Works
Roundtable Meeting Summary
September 28, 2007
10:00 - Noon
Skagit County Public
Works, Skagit Conference Room
Attendance:
Glen
Veal
Dyvon
Havens
Steve
Orsini
Carl
Cady
Jim
Voetberg
Win
Anderson
There
was no public comment.
Comments Prior to
General Discussion:
Ryan
Walters made comment regarding the presence of buffers on streams.
Call to Order: Meeting
begins 10:05 a.m.
Discussion:
Ferry Operations Update
Handouts were
distributed. A question arose regarding the anticipated presence of
the auditor and the treasurer, both of whom are not in attendance.
Ridership information
was discussed, including the fact that levels fall within normal limits
for average yearly numbers.
Financial information
handout was discussed, including revenues for current county calendar
year and projected budget.
Expenditures handout
was discussed, including expenditures to date for calendar year and,
as noted, planned capital improvements that will not be done in current
year. Items over budget were discussed. There was a brief discussion
on the time period covered by the report.
System
operations information handout was discussed, including projects and
maintenance concerns. Discussion took place for current projects underway
and planned projects, and the question of space for a turnaround at
the Anacortes dock and a future connection with SKAT service. The Guemes
side transfer ramp project was discussed, including the current state
of repair of the concrete bridge, as was the five-year capital transportation
plan for county projects, with the bridge as a component of that plan.
The Guemes side holding lane projected construction and mooring capabilities
on the Anacortes side were discussed, as was the idea of enhanced moorage
for times when the wind and tide combinations present a threat to the
boat’s physical structure.
Issues regarding
having a fourth crew member were discussed, particularly busy times
versus numbers of crew on duty and issues surrounding ticket sales
and cash management. A question arose regarding the determining factors
that would dictate the necessity of having a fourth crew member present,
with discussion following, including the aspect of technology-based
alternatives for ticketing versus union requirements for membership.
The issue of ticket sales and pickup with one versus two persons was
discussed. A question arose as to who would be responsible for exploring
all options for handling ticket sales. Office organization and support
staff involvement were discussed, and the fact that there may be some
experimentation with changes in the ticketing system as early as October.
Mr. Voetberg gave
a brief review of his experience with ferry systems.
The
ferry schedule was discussed, including that all changes are done by
resolution and the difficulties this process causes. The possibility
was brought up for any change requests to be submitted to the Ferry
Committee first, so that Ron is not besieged by requests.
Mr.
Voetberg stated he will be presenting to the Board of Commissioners
a cost/benefit report without a recommendation. Discussion followed
of costs versus benefits associated with maintenance and operating hours,
with the emphasis on a common sense approach. Mr. Orsini gave a brief
history of the evolution of crew member benefits versus hours worked
by different crews, the 176-hour clause contained in the old contract,
and the presence of a fourth crew member. Mr. Veal gave a brief history
of ferry operations in terms of crew members’ union contract specifications
and how they have affected scheduling and other aspects of how the ferries
have been run. Lunchtime and end-of-day operations were discussed, with
emphasis on solutions to the problem of backups during the busiest times
of the day.
A question was
asked regarding the annual report, and Mr. Voetberg stated that the
annual report was presented in July to the Board of Commissioners.
He then gave the proposed budget for the upcoming year, and stated
that the budget had been given to Gary Rowe and the Board of Commissioners
for consideration, and discussion followed. A question was asked regarding
Mr. Panzero’s status as management personnel or operator, and
it was established that he is a salaried employee who also does participate
in operations.
Numbers submitted
to the State for deficit reimbursement and an explanation of those
numbers were given, and how they affect the setting of fares, particularly
regarding rate increases for the upcoming year. Mr. Voetberg stated
that any needed changes will be made as a package rather than piecemeal,
so any rate changes will be made as part of a larger process, and
none are upcoming in the near future.
A question was
raised as to whether changes would be made through the round table,
with an answer given that ideally, the round table would generate
and work through their ideas, the Public Works office would generate
and work through their ideas, and the groups would then meet and compare
ideas and work out solutions.
Noticeable inequities
in fare rates were discussed. An observation was offered that the
Committee would be willing to work on restructuring a more equitable
fare schedule. Mr. Voetberg encouraged them to do so, with the qualifying
caution that it did not mean it would be implemented. Committee members
indicated they understood this.
The Committee’s
work plan was introduced and discussed. An explanation was given as
to what the work plan consists of and its purpose, and that the Ferry
Committee is elected by the islanders and represents them, and that
the work plan is similar to a business plan.
A question was
raised as to how the Committee can approve minutes of round table
meetings when they only receive the minutes on the day of the next
meeting. Mr. Voetberg stated that we do not approve minutes. An arrangement
was made for the minutes of the current meeting to be sent out in
draft form to those meeting attendees who have submitted an e-mail
address.
Mr.
Voetberg defined the main four issues of today’s discussions as
scheduling, fares, development plan, and operational efficiency. Some
topics for future discussion were proposed, including emergency operations,
in particular the Fire Department’s ability to get to the island
in a timely manner.
The next Guemes
Island ferry roundtable meeting date was tentatively set for November
2, 2007, which is a Friday.
SUGGESTED CHANGES
TO
Guemes Island Ferry
Committee/Skagit County Public Works
Roundtable Meeting
Summary September 28, 2007Page 1;
Discussion: Ferry
Operations Update
Par 1: Would like
to see a list of the handouts that were distributed:
Passengers
by Month 2007
Vehicles
by Month 2007
Passengers
by Month 2001-2007
Total
Vehicles to and from Guemes 2001-2007
Total
Vehicles to and from Guemes 2001-2007 Jan thru Aug
Total
Passengers to and from Guemes 2001-2007
Total
Passengers to and from Guemes 2001-2007 Jan thru Aug
Financial handouts
(I do not remember all of them):
Fiscal Year Fare
Revenue Analysis (July ’06 thru Jun ’07). Par 2: Delete
from “including” through” numbers.” and substitute:
Jim noted there has been no significant change in ridership during
the time period 2001 through 2007.
Par 3: Add Jim noted
they are on target with the budget. The difference of $42,580 between
the target revenue and revenue from fares is small enough the warrant
leaving fares the same in 2008 as they are in 2007.
Par 4: Add The plan
for the third lane on Guemes Island Rd is to complete the design in
2008 with installation in 2009. Proposed parking lot revision for Guemes
will also need further review.
Par 5: Add a few
specifics: Wing wall and dolphin replacements will probably occur in
early 2008. The new building planned for the Anacortes side is on hold
until late 2008 or early 2009. The plan will come back to the Round
Table for review. CRAB monies have been promised from the State to repair
the Guemes transfer ramp, with construction targeted for 2009.
Page 2: System Management
Update
Par 1: Add Jim stated
they will be able to go to three-crew runs by November 2007 during certain
times of day. They need to identify those times. Carl suggested the
County look at it from the standpoint of operating with a three-person
crew as normal procedure; then when a fourth is need, add it.
Par 3: Add Jim will
propose to the BOCC that staff be allowed to make minor changes to the
schedule, with only major items such as setting beginning and ending
ferry times, needing approval through Resolution.
Page 3: Proposed
Budget
Par 2: Add Jim wants
more time to study how fare recovery calculations are made due to the
complexity involved.
Par 5: Add GIFC
members explained the importance of the Work Plan is to gain agreement
on priorities of issues to be addressed and to provide a starting place
and direction for working on those issues. Jim sees six major areas
that should be included: Scheduling, Fares, Capital Facilities Plan,
Operational Efficiency, Service or Customer Satisfaction, and Emergency
Response.
Par 7: Delete
Guemes Island Ferry
Committee
11.1.07
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