Notes, Guemes Island
Ferry Committee
Quarter
Public Meeting of December 2, 2007
Attendance: 33 +
the Ferry Committee and Public Works
Ferry Committee
members present: Glen Veal, Marilee Fosbre, Carl Cady, Steve Orsini,
Dyvon Havens
Special guests:
Jim Voetberg, Director Skagit County Public Works
Ron Panzero, Skagit County Guemes Ferry Manager
Handouts available
1) Memorandum
from Jim Voetberg to the Board of Commissioners dated November 26,
2007: Methodology to Calculate Revenue from Ferry Fares
2) Draft
Resolution Rescinding R20040054 and Establishing Guemes
Island Ferry Ticket Fare Methodology Option A
3) Draft Resolution
[included in link above] Rescinding R20040054 and Establishing Guemes
Island Ferry Ticket Fare Methodology Option B
4) Resolution
#R20040054 currently in place using bridge analogy for setting fare
revenues
5)
Resolution
Establishing a New Ferry Schedule for the Trial Period Adopted under
Resolution R20060184 (to be decided upon at Skagit County Public Hearing
December 4, 2007)
Chairman Glen Veal
opened the meeting and introduced Ferry Committee members and County
staff.
Draft Resolution
(5) Above
Glen explained
the proposed resolution, which will be in effect only through June
30, 2007. At the January 13, 2008, Ferry Committee Quarterly Meeting,
the Committee will present a proposal for a revised ferry schedule
within the beginning and ending hours established by the County Commissioners.
It is hoped this new schedule will better meet the needs of the ridership.
The Round Table is currently fine tuning this proposed schedule. Objectives
will be to create a schedule that will permit operation with a 3-person
crew and to create a dual summer and winter schedule.
Steve Orsini discussed
a change the Ferry Committee is recommending in the proposed resolution.
The Ferry Committee is requesting the inclusion of the Round Table
in the last paragraph of the resolution, to read: “In the development
of the ferry schedules, the Public Works Department shall meet, discuss
and take into consideration comments from the Guemes Island Ferry
Operations and Performance Roundtable and the public. This wording
was included in the draft resolution agreed upon within the Round
Table until recently, when the Round Table was removed from the language.
Jim
Voetberg explained the reason the RT was removed. He received correspondence
from other groups representing ridership requesting this change.
Jim is trying
to not favor one group over another and to stay as neutral as possible.
Ginger Orsini
commented that the quarterly ferry meetings are open forums where
no one is restricted from stating their views. If someone comes behind
that process, then the process is not working. Gail Nicolls commented
that this is the only body that is elected to represent the ridership.
Jodi Meekins commented that the Ferry Committee has a charter to represent
the public. Glen Veal commented that the Ferry committee operates
transparently and openly. Marilee Fosbre commented that the new resolution
removes the public hearing process for changing the schedule within
the beginning and ending times and therefore adding the language of
inclusion of the Round Table is the method of monitoring the process.
Carol Pellett commented that only registered voters are allowed to
vote for Ferry Committee members and those who live off island do
not get to vote.
Ginger Orsini
moved to reinstate the language including the Round Table in the process
of changing the ferry schedule. Gail Nicolls seconded the motion.
Discussion: Jim
commented that it is not appropriate for him to bring this suggestion
forward to the Commissioners; however he would not recommend the Commissioners
NOT to do it. He needs to stay neutral. Jim wants to be inclusive
of everyone. He is trying to get all input, not just one group. He
would not object to adding language the included the Round Table.
Voting on the
motions results:
29
Yes
3
No
Draft Resolutions
(2) and (3) Above
Glen described
the Deficit Reimbursement Report (DRR). He explained that Public Works
is finding it difficult to defend the bridge analogy to the auditors
and therefore the Ferry Committee is in support of changing the fares
methodology. Clarification is needed as to the costs that can be amortized.
Carl gave a presentation on the DRR elements, which do not include
capital costs.
Carl explained
the sources of income. The Round Table is trying to come up with a
model that will determine what the contributions of the ridership
should be. Carl presented a graph showing DRR data and ferry cost
and revenues. He also presented a graph showing ridership projections.
Passenger trend lines show an average 1% increase over the past 18
years. Only walk-ons trend lines show an average 2% increase per year.
He also showed Guemes fares target alternatives. Fare recovery this
year was $793,000. Fare recovery target that Public Works desires
for 2008 is $846,000.
Max Benjamin commented
that docks have always before been excluded from ridership responsibility.
He also asked what the County’s contribution from the road fund.
He would like this figure included in the revenue numbers. He asked
why there is a 3-year average for DRR and 5-year average for Deficit
Reimbursement and Motor Vehicle Road Tax. Carl explained those averages
are adequate for smoothing out the spikes in the data. Max also wants
the Ferry Committee to resolve the matter of the union contract costs
of retroactive pay. He also commented that the road fund taxes less
the amount actually spent on island roads in a given years should
be included in the fare calculation.
Al Bush suggested
all the new terms (such as revenue target) and also the new resolution
for fares be discarded. He said we had a basis to hold the County’s
feet to the fire that they are not doing their job. With the new resolution,
we have no control. The Board of Commissioner has not tried to get
more money from the Deficit Reimbursement. What prevents the County
from continuing to increase fares without trying to contain costs?
There must be some accountability by the County.
Carl explained
that there is language in the resolution that says the public can
request a reduction in the target below 55%
Glen and Marilee
thanked Jim and Ron for their interest in containing ferry costs.
Carl acknowledged the recent efforts to foster a collaborative relationship
with the County, which involves compromise.
The
next Quarterly Meeting will be held January 13, 2008, at the Community
Center, at which time nominations will be accepted for the Ferry Committee
position currently held by Steve Orsini. Steve announced his willingness
to run for the position again.
Submitted by Dyvon
Havens
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